Is it time to dream? Hes presented Powerpoint shows to many suits detailing the findings of his years of study into Sydney peoples sports-consuming habits. Nobody would win, not even TV. NRL support. See: The Northern Eagles. Manly officially returned to the NRL in 2003 (playing out of Brookvale Oval, though they played at least two games per season in Gosford until 2015) and have since played in four NRL Grand Finals (2007, 2008, 2011 and 2013), winning the premiership in 2008 and 2011. Halfway through the season, the Eagles even abandoned playing games at Gosford, due to a sharp decline in attendances. The beauty of having a digital subscription or membership is that it travels with you. [13] That year they came within one match of the grand final but lost to Canberra. A team they cant really own. NRL Fans gather on the hill at North Sydney Oval to watch the North Sydney Bears. You must log in or register to reply here. Heart and soul of the North Sydney Bears Greg Florimo has weighed in on the proposal to re-merge Manly and the Bears. Not in conjunction with any other offer. This is the point where opponents will suggest that the partner should go it alone. At the end of the day, we are the North Sydney Bears and well look to not just have a competitive side but a winning side. Norths player Drew Hutchison also had a bad match kicking two goals from six attempts including one from right in front to send the game into extra-time. But like said abominable Northern Eagles, they would be horrible. Since the North Sydney Bears were banished from the NRL after the ill-fated merger with Manly (forming the Northern Eagles) in 2002, the Upper and Lower North Shore and Northern Suburbs have gone . Like Illawarra got the socks in their merge and the Magpies got Campbelltown occasionally, the Bears got shafted in the merge. Earlier in the week, The Australian's. [40], There is a movement for a return to first-grade Rugby League for the club, with the North Sydney Bears moving to Gosford (on the Central Coast, New South Wales) and becoming the Central Coast Bears. Copyright 2023 NorthernBeachesSportsTribune News. And he said the NRL told these guys not to use the media to play things out. (Only applies if home delivery is included in your package), www.dailytelegraph.com.au/subscriptionterms, Subscriber-only newsletters straight to your inbox, Todays Paper, a digital replica of the newspaper, SuperCoach Plus for stats, analysis, tips and more, Saturday and Sunday paper delivery* (Not available in all areas). They love the club. And watch the people stream across Miller Street and into Bear Park, and fill it full to burst, and chant like Souths fans did. It made sense to relocate one of the Sydney teams to the Central Coast". [7], The 1952 season saw North Sydney reach the finals for the first time since 1943. Oops! They last won a premiership in 1993, defeating Newcastle in the grand final 5-4. Towards the end of the war Norths' fortunes improved, playing quality and spectators numbers increased, and they won 2 premierships in 192122 coached by Chris McKivat. The Great Dane Sep 3, 2018 Prev 1 2 3 4 Next flippikat Bench Messages 3,489 Sep 18, 2018 #21 Hello said: I dont know why they would need to play any games in Brooky or NSO. Since the Northern Eagles folded at the end of 2002, Manly and North Sydney have gone their separate ways. [19], By the start of the 1999 NRL season the future looked bright with plans for the move north well underway, but one unfortunate and apparently non-negotiable outcome of the Super League war's peace deal was a criterion designed to reduce the number of teams in the NRL to fourteen. Like Illawarra got the socks in their merger and the Magpies got Campbelltown occasionally, the Bears got shafted in their merger. Newcastle, and Andrew Johns, then 19, beat us at home. Forge their own identity. For two wilderness-riven decades, Bears hopefuls have been scoffed at, cast as hopeless, foolish tragics, and blind to the realities of economic rationalism in the 21st century. The voice of TRUE North Sydney Bears Supporters. "On the way in I saw a couple of flying pigs, and then I checked my diary to see if it was April Fools Day," Zorba said in May. Had another chat with a bloke involved in the Bears ill-fated bid for the Gold Coast licence. The Roosters 200,000. And they didn't. And it should be done because there is not a team in northern Sydney. At the Central Coast they have a stadium up there and they have a huge junior base. Not in conjunction with any other offer. [5] when an injury riddled North Sydney were beaten by Newtown 347. I can see how that might appear. North Sydney would eventually reach the preliminary final in the competition but were defeated by Glebe 26-6. In 2016, it was reported that there were moves for the Bears to buy the Gold Coast Titans franchise. July 22nd, 2022 11:47 am. For mine, sports fans, that is freakin La La Land. It would mean joining forces with the North Sydney Bears who have been desperate to get in the NRL since their exit at the end of the 1999 season. Goodwill. Prices after the introductory pricing period may be varied as per full Terms and Conditions. Due to having a debt of around $4 million, the North Sydney club was not considered under the NRL's inclusion criteria. the fun and become a member of the community, You can share sports stories, experiences, match reports, And today there's 600,000 people from Kirribilli to Mt Colah who dont have a rugby league team. Fans can also support a team though theyve never set foot in their zone. Unprecedented goodwill. Register a free account today to become a member of the world's largest Rugby League discussion forum! Its not all about numbers, of course. It's a rainy Friday evening in Sydney, and the temperature on the big screen at North Sydney Oval reads 14 degrees. Norths also amalgamated with the Seagulls, a border club at Tweed Heads on the far north coast of New South Wales, the oldest provincial rugby league club in Australia. In November 2010, it was reported that Ken Sayer, CEO of Mortgage House, planned to underwrite the bid for $10 million to help ensure their financial equity was shored up when the bid was submitted. We lost thousands and thousands of rugby league fans.. Prices after the first 12 months may be varied as per full Terms and Conditions. Hard-nosed? This automatically renews to be charged as $24 (min. And lo did journos On The Pulse and encrypted WhatsApp chats spread the love about the arcane and business-like practices the Commission was mooting to shift a Sydney club out of town, to ensure viability and profitability, to uphold the greater good, or whatever reason they might use to shift a team in a Ken-Cowley-taking-Super-League-to-the-massive-untapped-markets-of-New-York-Johannesburg-and-Hong-Kong kind of way. These are the ties that bind. For full details, see our Terms and Conditions www.dailytelegraph.com.au/connectedterms. In 1991 North Sydney finished the regular season in 3rd place and defeated local rivals Manly in the first week of the finals. [26] On 19 September, it was announced that Ben Gardiner was leaving as coach of the club after two and a half years in charge.[27]. Monday to Friday 7:30am 6:00pm, Saturday & Sunday 7:00am 11:30am (AEST), App or digital edition only customer? When Souths were kicked out, mates of mine followed Randwick. North Sydney would have another chance the following week to make the grand final going up against defending premiers Canberra in the preliminary final. North Melbourne withdraws from the merger race. People from outside can conflate Sydneys north shore with the northern beaches. Register a free account today to become a member of the world's largest Rugby League discussion forum! cost) for the first 12 months, charged as $24 every 4 weeks. North Sydney legend David Fairleigh was proposed to become the inaugural coach. Photograph: North Sydney Bears NRL Fans gather on the hill at North Sydney Oval to watch the North Sydney Bears. Maybe not instant. I can live on the beach". The proposed franchise, to be known simply as The Bears,[62] would split home matches between various regional centres including Wagga Wagga, Dubbo, Tamworth, Coffs Harbour and Central Coast, along with major cities Perth, Adelaide, Hobart and Darwin that are otherwise currently without NRL representation. The following year North Sydney came 2nd in the regular season, but were defeated 47-7 by St George, and then lost to South Sydney 14-9 the following week.[8][9][10]. Original reporting and incisive analysis, direct from the Guardian every morning. Owned by both clubs and with equal represteantion on the board. No cancellations during the first 12 months. The North Sydney Bears is an Australian rugby league football club based in North Sydney, New South Wales. Earlier this year there were reports the Bears were attempting to organise a consortium that will make a bid to purchase the NRL license off the Manly Sea Eagles. Each payment, once made, is non-refundable, subject to law. On 14 December 2017, it was officially announced by The NRL that the consortium of Darryl Kelly and self made property tycoon Rebecca Frizelle had won the bid to purchase The Gold Coast Titans. After a meeting between the administrator of Fitzroy and the AFL commission, the AFL commission recommends a Bears-Fitzroy merger. Any Questions? 13.3K followers. Get five per cent of Northern Sydney to a North Sydney Bears game and that's 50,000 citizens. But the region continued to grow. Mergers mean dogs and cats living together in unholy matrimony. They have also been affiliated with the New Zealand Warriors, the South Sydney Rabbitohs and the Melbourne Storm in the past.[23]. With only seconds remaining Norths frantically threw the ball around and lost it, the ball was swooped up by Newcastle's Owen Craigie and he raced away to score a try and won the game. [2] Until the end of season 2009, Souths were coached by the Bears' record-breaking top points scorer, Jason Taylor. Relocation disenchants and disenfranchise existing fans, while new ones get a sort of half-arsed mob from somewhere else. Not sure if you missed it Freddy but the Bears already did merge with Manly. Mergers mean dogs and cats living together in unholy matrimony. After purchase, this subscription may be managed in your Google Account Settings. The NRL Forecast: Year of the Rooster, new-look Tigers spin their wheels, Payten's reality check, The Roars NRL expert tips and predictions: Round 1. But Jeez thats two million eyeballs. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Couldn't he go, the Flo. If the NRL wants to expand it should look inside itself: And bring back the North Sydney Bears. And they dont have a footy team to call their own. And there are lots and lots and lots of eyeballs. Speaking to Sporting News Australia, Manly tragic Peter Zorba Peters proudly rubbished Fittlers recommendation with a warning for the Bears. Established in 1908 the North Sydney District Rugby League Football Club is one of the great Rugby League clubs of the World. The path appears to be clearing to bring back the grand old club. And yes if I was going to merge clubs I would support a new brand over a 'merged' brand, as merging the brands just leads to problems and infighting, so yeah instead of the new club being called the North Sydney Sea Eagles and playing in red and black, they'd have a completely new brand and be (e.g.) It explains that if you do not provide us with information we have requested from you, we may not be able to provide you with the goods and services you require. The North Sydney Bears believe their vast fan following and 113 years of history make them the ideal fit for an 18th team should the NRL explore further expansion. In 2014 facilities comprised two dining areas, function rooms, a 530-seat auditorium, a fitness and wellness centre, indoor and outdoor lounge areas, a bottle shop, a TAB, two squash courts, a courtesy bus service, a members rewards program and a multi-level car park for 320 vehicles. Madness, of course. Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox! They have to be from somewhere, represent some patch. Because eyeballs watching product are all. Bears are now officially the feeder club for the Roosters for the next 5 years starting 2019. Politicians do the same thing with policy; leak a backbenchers brain-fart to the papers, see how it flies among the populace. Bring Back The Bears! You are only entitled to this subscription if and for as long as you hold a valid and active subscription with your Google Account. He enjoys golf, footy and Four Pines Pale Ale, and spends as much time as conscience allows at Long Reef GC. In 2009, North Sydney lost to Balmain Tigers in extra time to miss out on the Grand Final 1918. 380 following. On 11 October 2017, Shane Millard was announced as new head coach by the club. Youre getting the best of both. I think they would be crazy not to make that work, a Northern Suburbs team, Fittler told Wide World of Sports. Full Digital Access to be billed $1 for the first 28 days. Prices after the first 12 months may be varied as per full Terms and Conditions. [55][56][57], On 9 August 2019, rugby league immortal Andrew Johns said that having a team on the Central Coast would be a "no-brainer". At the end of the 2019 Canterbury Cup NSW regular season, Norths finished third on the table and qualified for the finals. Anywhere from the Harbour Bridge - take in the Central Coast - that would be such a powerful area and if they could come to some sense you could encapsulate Brookvale Oval, North Sydney Oval and Gosford and have a wonderful, strong club.. New South Wales representative Queenslander, Bruce Walker, captained the Bears in the final of the 1976 Amco Cup. To upgrade, call 1300 MY NEWS (696 397), As a Full Digital Access or Paper Delivery + Full Digital Access Member youll get unlimited digital access to every story online, insight and analysis from our expert journalists PLUS enjoy freebies, discounts and benefits with our +Rewards loyalty program. Missed out. Sheesh Teddy you want to move the Roosters to the "Eastern Seabed".The gimps have to breath now and again mate.Bloody hard to knock on or flick pass 100 fathoms below the surface. We want to see it! And all those aforementioned Sydney fisheries have a team, while a one million-strong chunk of northern Sydney and its near north does not. Home delivery is not available in all areas. The Knock On Effect NSW Cup. At a private event some years ago, a former senior administrator in the NRL laughed in the face of a Bears official explicating the case for a return on the Central Coast in a ground the club built, underwritten by John Singleton, coached by Wayne Bennett. You are using an out of date browser. In 2019 the Australian Rugby League Commission cobbled together a white paper of sorts, a plan to prop up under-performing Sydney NRL clubs with revenue that would apparently flow from broadcasters once the club had relocated to a new place where people watch telly. A great brand and a new supporter base.. Sport; NRL; NRL 2022: Peter V'landys reveals thoughts on North Sydney Bears, Western Australian merge proposal. Hes done the PhD, bought the T-shirt. Problem with NRL is too many clubs in Sydney yet far too many grounds to watch teams ( remember the 2 team West Tigers playing out of 4 venues 10 years ago doesn't help) and the f**kin Roosters should f**k off to CC and Crowe should move SS back to Eastern Seabed but hey you are still strong as English Rugby League is f**ked I think. But Jeez that's two million eyeballs. Too right. JavaScript is disabled. Hard-nosed? It was a wet, Autumnal day in May 1994. People follow footy teams largely because the team represents them, their patch, their people. As of 2014, there have been several attempts for the Bears to come back into the NRL by being based at the Central Coast, North Sydney, Perth, Gold Coast and Brisbane. Their subsequent, rapid demise was not organic, and hundreds of thousands of Bears people are still out there, wandering. But it looks like Australian Rugby League Commission chairman Peter Vlandys disagrees. At the end of the day, if they dont like the decision the Bears make, they can take it up with us. Brad Fittler calls for Manly to merge with North Sydney Bears to make 'behemoth' club. L.U. But theyd be into, the Northern Sydney Bear people, all six hundred thousand of em, or whatever percentage the NRL could plane off and declare allegiance, and consume the club and love it one way or many. West Australian desire. Adding a team in Sydney would appear to fly in the face of the theres too many teams in Sydney argument. Its from that place. North Sydney were coached that year by the great Ron Willey. Prices after the introductory pricing period may be varied in accordance with the full Terms and Conditions. In 2019 the Australian Rugby League Commission cobbled together a white paper of sorts, a plan to prop up under-performing Sydney NRL clubs with revenue that would apparently flow from broadcasters once the club had relocated to a new place where people watch telly. Penrith (590,000) is about the same. No cancellations during the first 12 months. Brisbane team? Norths came into the game with an outside chance of making the finals but the loss ensured Norths finished outside the top 8 and with a bad point points differential meant they finished in second last place on the table. However! But they are separate, distinct entities. Greg Florimo has been the face of the Bears' efforts to get back into the NRL, and remains involved with the club. The Bears are not in agreement with anyone, Dickson told SENZ Breakfast Radio recently. Nothing locked in, of course, not officially. Matt Cleary is a sports writer from Sydney. Weve been burnt before, but were still here, and still hoping. Penrith won the match 16-14 despite the fact that Norths scored more tries. If you wish to change or create a new subscription, please call 1800 070 535 Monday to Friday 7.30am 6.00pm & 7.00am-11.30am AEST on both Saturdays & Sundays. [29][30] Maybe not jubilation. Relocation disenchants and disenfranchise existing fans, while new ones get a sort of half-arsed mob from somewhere else. They love that place. They were beaten 20-15 by Weller Hauraki, scoring a controversial try with just 13 seconds to go, which many believed should not have been allowed due to a forward pass. They went to the Swans and the Waratahs. [citation needed] In spite of this, the club provided more players for the 2001 State of Origin series' New South Wales team than any other club. And it would be magnificent. Consider these northern beaches. Sat 25 Jun 2022 16.00 EDT Last modified on Sat 25 Jun 2022 18.49 EDT Maybe not instant. Had another chat with a bloke involved in the Bears ill-fated bid for the Gold Coast license. Who are these people? Peter Vlandys is often asked when the NRL will bring back the Bears. Speaking . North Sydney now field a team in the Canterbury Cup NSW, the competition immediately below NRL level, as a feeder to the Sydney Roosters. Manly's licence is redistributed to a WA or Bris2 franchise. Why subscribe to become a Full Digital Access or Paper Delivery + Full Digital Access Member? The club competes in the New South Wales Cup, having exited the National Rugby League following the 1999 NRL season after 90 years in the premier rugby league competition in Australia. But they are separate, distinct entities. promote your clubs sponsors and connect I wonder if he realises that a twelve team co p survival of the fittest would almost certainly see Newcastle gone? With the scores locked at 12-12, Newcastle player Matthew Johns kicked a field goal with 2 minutes to play to make it 13-12. Only Parramatta (890,000) and Wests Tigers (690,000) have a larger catchment than the Bears would have. The club initially struggled to obtain access to North Sydney Oval, but council obstruction was removed and the Shoremen played their first real home game in 1910. Hyde, who was living in Lane Cove at the time, had been forced to switch from Balmain to Norths in 1941 due to the league's residency rules which stated that a player was required to live in their club's district. Not in conjunction with any other offer. Normally a very reliable kicker and one of the most accurate in the competition, Taylor had already missed two previous conversions in the match but if he was to kick this goal it could send North Sydney through to their first grade final since 1943. Full Digital Access + Weekend Paper Delivery $8 billed every 4 weeks for the first 12 weeks, then $36 billed every 4 weeks. Manly dissolved the merger after just two . Wouldn't be surprised if Uncle Nick has seen the writing on the wall for Manly as a business and is ready to pick off carcass of the Sea Eagles Roosters/Norths absorb Manly, become the Northern Roosters and encompass the eastern and northern beaches all the way to Gosford. The Bears bid committee is lobbying the NRL for inclusion as the next expansion team. But they would. [25], In the 2017 season, Norths finished 6th on the ladder and qualified for the finals. See www.dailytelegraph.com.au/subscriptionterms for full details. Season 2015 saw a strong improvement as Norths won nine games throughout the season and returned to the NSW Cup finals, only to be eliminated by Canterbury in Week One, and finished eighth. The news never got better for Bears fans. Cheaper and easier than focus groups. The Northern Eagles represented Manly. The club competes in the New South Wales Cup, having exited the National Rugby League following the 1999 NRL season after 90 years in the premier rugby league competition in Australia. Consider: six hundred thousand people live from Kirribilli to Hornsby Heights, from the Roseville Bridge to north-west Ryde. Then it was the Western. There are a million reasons why. They didn't win many, these Bears. And lo did journos On The Pulse and in encrypted WhatsApp chats spread the love about the arcane and business-like practices the Commission was mooting to shift a Sydney club out of town, to ensure viability and profitability, to uphold the greater good, or whatever reason they might use to shift a team in a Ken-Cowley-taking-Super-League-to-the-massive-untapped-markets-of-New-York-Johannesburg-and-Hong-Kong kind of way. Its a bad merge. Carney spoke to the media saying "I had that option with the Bears but Souths have blocked that, I'm sure something will come up". For those who wish to see the Bears return to the top grade, it is hard to conceive of a comment more inviting. Heart and soul of the North Sydney Bears Greg Florimo has weighed in on the proposal to re-merge Manly and the Bears. [63] The Bears intend to retain their 113-year history and traditional black and red colours. We are super excited to have a player of Todd Carneys calibre join the mighty North Sydney Bears". It reminds me of my dads response to my tears after that loss to Newcastle in 1994. [citation needed], They were nearly dropped from the competition during World War I due to dwindling spectator numbers. As reported in the Tele political type and Bears man James Mullan is organising a massive rally for March or April of next year like Souths had in 2000 at Town Hall. And there are lots and lots and lots of eyeballs. Same-same. This Bowling Club was transformed and re-branded as The Greens North Sydney in November 2014. [6], The team became known as the North Sydney Bears during the 1950s after accepting a sponsorship from the nearby Big Bear supermarket at Neutral Bay. If that's the marker, then the ARLC suited bean-counters should do this: Granted! If the NRL wants to expand it should look inside itself: And bring back the North Sydney Bears. Its why they invest in a footy team with themselves, with emotion, with money. . Can I put my subscription or membership on hold? 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