"Their answer is that no, it burns at the same temperature as H110". interesting. Rem 7 1/2 When we are sold out, we are sold out. . 1023 average with 14.0 sd out of a 16" Ruger American. Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. We do not take backorders and our Tech Services team cannot take orders via email or phone. 300 Blackout 220 GR SIE HPBT Hodgdon CFE BLK .308" 2.260" Starting Loads Maximum Loads CALIBER BULLET WEIGHT MANUFACTURER POWDER BULLET DIAMETER C.O.L. I like H110 under Barnes 110gr TAC-TX. I'm running 20.5gr with 110's. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. It's a very dense powder. Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. Brass looks fine. The following is from a 10" test barrel using the 700 gr. I use 20g and get just short of 2400 fps in a 16" barrel with no pressure signs at all. 11.2 CFE BLK A sub sonic load was louder than I am used to for a bolt action. I've got a load worked up using both A1680 and H110 for my 8" gas gun build. Honestly, I think 4227 and H110/296 to be the ideal powders for that bullet. Im right in the middle of the load data. The following is from a 10" test barrel using the 700 gr. For supersonic or subsonic loads? It is somewhat encouraging tho. This is the results of five shots. H110 is optimized for .30 Carbine. Winchester 296 . 16 SD, Original load, Hodgdon data. [ARCHIVED THREAD] - CFE BLK vs. H110 for 300 AAC Blackout for Short Barrel ARs. ES in the hundreds. Hodgdon Tite Group. Definitely worth a try. AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. WARNING: This product contains chemicals known to the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm. NOTE: Despite the BLK in the name, this is a NOT a black powder substitute. Can you provide data for reloads using the CFE BLK. Unfortunately, the majority of all 7.6239 cases are made of steel and feature a Berdan Primer. COSteve, I read your post, and I take it that none of the H110 comparison was with 300BO, correct? This is compared with H110 at 52,800 PSI and IMR 4227 at 48,700 PSI. It is cross-compatible with 223 Rem/5.5645 magazines. Lil'Gun does better for accuracy in the bolt, but A1680 cycles the ARs more reliably with subs. Thats a big benefit for varmint shooters, who may put hundreds of rounds through a barrel in a single day on the varmint fields. If I had more length he said the difference between the two powders would be more noticeable. Moreover, CFE BLK is perfect for subsonic, reduced loads. Share the post "New Hodgdon CFE BLK Powder Great for Small Cartridges", Tags: .221 Fireball, AR, AR16, Ball Powder, CFE 223, CFE BLK, Copper Fouling Eraser, Data Center, Hodgdon, Reduced Fouling. For light supers, H110/W296 is a fair bit faster than any other powder in published data I've seen. Improved Military Rifle IMR 4227. 56 ES JMHO, but I would back off of that. I am also using 220 grain subsonic loads. A 16 had very minor flash. Starting with heavy supers where I have questioned their load data pressure claims before. Hodgdon Trail Boss. bullets all come in, again, at shorter COAL than Barnes (1.970 and 1.845, respectively, vs. Barnes' 2.250). by alamo5000 Sun Jul 08, 2018 7:45 pm, Post . 220 Hornady RN, 12.1gr CFE BLK, sig brass, cci 450. The initial loads in the original post were by the book. LC converted 1.350. Privacy Policy. You must log in or register to reply here. H110 came out much better than A1680 I assume due to the shorter barrel and faster burn rate of H110. 11.2 gr. I use CFE BLK (12gr) for 220gr subsonics. I have probably written it off as a short barrel/pistol gas powder. I use H110 mostly for 410 shotshells and 450 Bushmaster heavy loads. H110 and WW296 are the same powder, different containers. Please note that I do not load subsonic. Dellet from 300blacktalk.com forum, ?the leading premiere media outlet where you can learn any and everything about the 300 Blackout caliber?shares his thoughts on the new CFEBLK powder released by Hodgdon after many hours of loading and testing. Did I forget to mention that gas proof goggles might not be a bad idea when shooting this powder? The S.A.A.M.I. It looks about like you would expect given the velocity spreads. It was designed for the 9mm and the 40 but will work in the 10mm. I am feeling a little better about the powder and will try to run a couple more loads this weekend. Just to add more interesting stuff to the mixI ordered a little bottle of Puff-Lon to see what I can do. Well damn. I was going to Houston anyway but it's a big city with lots of traffic. 23 of 110 is hot as hell Im running 19 with the Barnes 110s and I thought that was stout. "Still flying like gypsies, just a little closer to the ground" Trace Adkins. Basically 22 grains, I dropped ten charges and weighed them on a Gempro 250. Mainly because I had a jug or two squirreled away. Loading up cheap and quiet subsonic 300 blackout using gallant bullets with CFE BLK powder in mixed head stamp converted brass. Na prezent moesz kupi komplet Marvel Super Heroes Comics 2014 X-Men vs 8 Remington SPC and the 7 6 1,041 13,400 PSI The Widener General Dynamic 147's are very nice and the RMR 147's are too CFE Black is a lot like 1680 but with even bigger positional sensitivity 2006 Pontiac Grand Prix Throttle Body Relearn CFE Black is a lot like 1680 but with even bigger . The 8 barrel pistol gas in a word was uncomfortable to shoot without ear protection. Clear Ballistics Gel Test, Kimber Camp Guard ? by alamo5000 Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:54 pm, Post This is compared with H110 at 52,800 PSI and IMR 4227 at 48,700 PSI. It was reasonably overcast when shooting, with plenty of snow. Great accuracy, very consistent and meters well. 800 fps 1007 fps I've thought about trying the 20.2g max, but it's been really accurate, so not worth messing with. H110 is the powder that was used to make 30 carbine. 2.255 COL, 8 barrel pistol gas I chose a load from the on line load data. First round had a fairly large flash, next two were just a few sparks, noise was moderate. check out the. It provides full function in modern sporting rifles throughout . Not quite 1680 loud, but considering the amount of snow on the ground to absorb the noise it was slightly obnoxious. I just loaded at 22.5 and another at 22.0. is the glorified version to run 110-220gr projectiles,sub & super sonic. 21.98, 21.98 You can lap the inside of the seater stem so that it matches the exact profile of the bullet. It's good for target or mid-range loads in magnums but it's faster burning than AA9, 2400, or H110/WW296, 4227 or Lil'gun. Hodgdons new CFE BLK (named after the .300 AAC Blackout cartridge) has a faster burn rate than the original CFE 223. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Hodgdon H110. After reading the threads posted I felt more comfortable compressing the load to the 2.050 COL. of H-110 for the 500 gr.JSP don't think so. Shot roughly 1" groups at 50. . The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Not impressed would be the word of the day. Blackout wasn't even functional, I didn't get a single cycle over 15 test . It is likely bolt speed and compressed powder moving the bullet forward due to moving faster on an empty mag. At this time their shipping/HAZMAT charge is $7.95/$10.00 a price I haven't been able to beat or even come close to elsewhere on line. IMR 4198 does not meter well. I haven't tried cfe blk or h110 yet, but lilgun and imr 4227 work good in my 14" AR. You could try seating a bullet with no powder and see how the bullet looks . Fast Facts About 300 Blackout. Despite this huge disparity in pressure, muzzle velocity of the three is about the same (1,940, 1,971, and 1,899 FPS). NRA Life Member, but the GOA is who I support. I only loaded 150 grain Hornady bullets when I was loading for a 16" .300 BO carbine. This spherical propellant is designed expressly for the 300 Remington AAC Blackout cartridge and meters very accurately. var ga = document.createElement('script'); ga.type = 'text/javascript'; ga.async = true; (At least that would be my guess, if the data is accurate). Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! A H110 18.8 2259 40600 20.0 2382 50600 C A H110 18.8 2220 39300 20.0 2348 50800 C Not being argumentative, just curious. H110/W296 can give me more velocity with lighter bullet weights. You must log in or register to reply here. Shooters World BUFFALO RIFLE. I'm using a suppressor and 16 inch barrel and there is plenty of gas to cycle the action reliably and give me around 1050 fps. 2.255. This spreads out the seating force over a larger area of the bullet jacket. 300 Blackout vs. 350 Legend. Editor: You should go directly to the Hodgdon Reloading Data Center. Shooters World HEAVY PISTOL. and it gave 1,225 fps at 39,700 psi and a ES of 16 fps. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. Cartridge Overall Length: 2.02 inches. 11.5 Grains 2.195 COL. You may not reproduce original text or photos without advanced permission in writing. 1059 One other tidbit is my last shot has continued to be an anomaly. The 300 AAC Blackout delivers ballistic performance comparable to 7.6239, yet possesses a base diameter that optimizes functionality in an AR-type platform. . 1063 The first test was 25.0 grs. They literally explode. 19 IMR Co IMR GREEN 69 Hodgdon CFE BLK 119 Norma 204 20 Winchester WST 70 Norma 200 120 Hodgdon HYBRID 100V . Again 5 shots at fifty, for reference that is a 1 dot. The powder is growing on me in a carbine gas system. All Rights Reserved. I shoot 243 for coyotes and shoot 58gr to 100 gr bullets. The 7.6239 is a bottleneck rimless case meant to be used at intermediate combat ranges (less than 500 yards). Starting in January, 2017, CFE BLK powder will be available in both one-pound (1-lb.) 1056 If you want maximum velocity, try Alliant 300MP. 2.255 COL CFE BLK contains our Copper Fouling Eraser ingredient, originally used in military propellant, which greatly deters copper fouling and contributes to longer periods of top accuracy with less barrel cleaning time. Classifieds 282 Gender:Male Awesome, thanks. containers. More shooting will sort that out. It will be a very good powder for carbine length systems and probably lighter bullets. Bill K. For 150 grain bullets: IMR 4227 2.235" Min 16.5 1,785 41,800 CUP Max 17.8 1,908 50,200 CUP Sierra loads for H4227 (I have the Sierra pages printed): H4227 16.0 at 1800 fps to 17.5 at 1950 fps I did not shoot without the suppressor. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Many of our Forum members have tried CFE 223 and confirmed that is performs as advertised with less copper fouling that most other propellants. This spherical propellant is designed expressly for the 300 Remington AAC Blackout cartridge and meters very accurately. You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. When 350 Legend debuted, Winchester claimed it was the fastest straight wall cartridge ever released. Obviously, the RPK can throw rounds much further, but not as accurate as a 7.6263 bullet. VEL. Really wish my chrono would not flake out at these higher rifle speeds. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Any experience with CFE BLK in magnum revolvers? 1063 Nope, I don't load 300 BO at all. Barrel time. H110 made sense to me since I load .357 sometimes. All the way to the max of 23.7. I've used a ton of H110 for .357mag for both pistol and levergun cartridges and 30 carbine in my 2 M1 Carbines in the 15 years. I have compared it to IMR 4198, RL7, 1680, Norma 200, and Vit powders N110, N120, N130, N530 & N133. 801 fps Lil gun and Win 296/H110 seem to do good for 300gr. I'm also hearing that people are having good results with CFE BLK but according to the burn rate chart CFE BLK is even slower thank A1680. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. I know getting your choice of powders is tough right now, but maybe CFE isn't the best choice for that bullet weight. The original CFE 223 propellant was formulated for reduced copper fouling (CFE in the name refers to Copper Fouling Eraser). I knew going in that I might be giving up 2-250fps with the cfe black vs. h110 but I already have 8# of the cfe blk. Here's a simple task you can do that will give your seater die a more perfect fit to your match bullets. Not sure what weight you are using but I am using it in a 16 carbine length adjustable direct impinge gas system. I have loaded and shot the 44 Mag since the late 50's. I currently have a Smith 69, the 5 shot revolver on the "L" frame, and . by alamo5000 Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:48 pm, Post and our If so, are you suggesting that there should be a direct correlation with how H110 will perform in 300BO and your example calibers/cartridges? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I will probably wnd up grabbing some H110 if Insee it locally. 848 fps Right now my feeling is that this is a powder that needs to be compressed. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. I need to drop some speed, these were cracking at 25 degrees. Contemplating reloading 300AAC however I have to ask is it really worth it? AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. I will say that it has all the qualities inherent to 1680 that drove me to work hard to find a substitute. The H110 produced a sharp crack recoil in my leverguns while the Lil'Gun produces a longer, stronger recoil. Sierra shows a max load of H110 slightly higher than Barnes - 20.5 gr. It is going to be in the neighborhood of HS-6, which is too fast for your gun. 8.6 BLK H110 vs CFE BLK I've got a load worked up using both A1680 and H110 for my 8" gas gun build. Rem 7 1/2 It seems to throw high spreads until you get to 95% plus. Great accuracy, very consistent and meters well. The 300 Blackout's .30 caliber bullet can be made especially long, and as the result may weigh up . And 300 AAC BLACKOUT with BERGER 115 to 230 grain .30 caliber bullets. Look at thread number 8---- 38.0 grs. Thats good news for shooters of small varmint cartridges. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. All Rights Reserved. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. by wildfowler Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:29 pm, Post I've loaded the 300Whisper's multiple leade angle chamber designed for the 220-240gr projectiles since it's inception 30+ years ago & to date. I just need to figure out if a different seating stem would fit the bullets better. I actually drove to the city (Houston) this weekend and I picked up some powder. That should do the trick for 44 Mag. Bull-X now has a 300 grain flat-nosed bullet available for the I've read the ballistics and reloading guides but would like to hear user reports for reloaders who have experience with CFE BLK and H110 in 300 AAC Blackout in SBRs and . (Note H110 & W296 are the same as of 2008 as is HP-38 & W231) (IMR 4227 is same as H-4227 if made in Australia).458 SOCOM From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (from Starline Brass) 458 SOCOM Brass (Large Pistol primer) 1.569-1.576 O.A.L. For lightweight supers the density is too high and yeah you'll be compressing even at starting load. 73802E56-837F-48A2-A7B4-AF21CA7EB748.jpeg, FF62D836-B35B-4269-9A64-85377653D7E4.jpeg. If you're looking for a multi-purpose load for the .300 AAC Blackout, this may be the best bullet. The same case holds 26.3 grains of CFE BLk. It meters well, my Vintage RCBS powder measure was set up to throw 21.3 grains of 1680. I have read a variety of ballistic charts and reloading data. Despite this huge disparity in pressure, muzzle velocity of the three is about the same (1,940, 1,971, and 1,899 FPS). If Ive missed anything or something you think I should try ask and Ill see what I can come up with as a test. Only powders I've used for BLK so far is 1680 and H110, under 150gr Hornady FMJ BTs. maximum average pressure for the 218 Bee is 40,000 CUP. Hodgdon H322. Improved Military Rifle IMR 4227. 1049 AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. averaging 3428 fps. There was one odd round that had a very low velocity. var _gaq = _gaq || []; Almost all loads for this powder call for it to be compressed, some quite a bit. _gaq.push(['_setAccount', 'UA-6323545-2']); CFE BLK Should Be on Dealers Shelves in January 2017 when I discounted that as a possible loading error the ES dropped to 24, SD 10. these are numbers that are a reasonable to start with. For sub its dirty and the velocity spread is too high for decent accuracy. I pulled my trigger group and stripped my bolt. Still a fair amount of gas. Using federal AR match primer. LC converted 1.350, 1067 fps The Hodgdon loading guide for the 300 Blackout, 150 grn bullet, 16" barrel shows a max recommended load (20.5C grns) that only produces 33,500 PSI max pressure. Hodgdon CFE BLK. Add in cast bullets to the mix and you have to start looking at peak pressure matching bullet hardness. Using H110 and Barnes Tac-TX 110gr for a supersonic load leaves me with enough confidence for whitetail at a reasonable distance, and it isn't too much . By comparison a sized empty case holds 24.5 grains of H110/296. Berry's 220 grain 300 Blackout bullets. Still at 50 yards, back to the original powder charge of 11.2 grains. No amount of coating will keep 55,000 psi from cutting a soft bullet. ok? One of the top two holes of the 18 barrel was a flyer by me, the other was I am sure just the load. 11.5 grn by alamo5000 Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:46 pm, Post Both of those work very well. Shooters World HEAVY PISTOL. I reload 357 and 44 mag so therefore I have a good supply of H-110. Hodgdon reports the CFE BLK meters well, allowing reloaders to throw very consistent charges every time: "This fine powder meters like a dream and leaves no copper residue, extending accuracy for longer shooting periods, and making clean-up quick and easy." CFE BLK Should Be on Dealers' Shelves in January 2017 The 300 is very close to the 30 carbine so that is why it is used. Shooters World SBR-SOCOM. The Hodgdon loading guide for the 300 Blackout, 150 grn bullet, 16" barrel shows a max recommended load (20.5C grns) that only produces 33,500 PSI max pressure. Chronoed using a magnetto. Another round today and almost there, ready for fine tuning. I debated it but the guy at Hidgon thought Id be fine unless I was trying to push the velocity beyond what I really need in a 7 pistol. 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